well, Americans.
Published on March 10, 2005 By Larry Kuperman In Current Events
We're doing it again. We keep on trying to save the world. And, of course, the world is predictably dissatisfied with the way that we go about it.

View the blog posts from around the world. Count the number of people that people that post that America has no business in Iraq. Compare that to the number that point out (or even know) that Iraq was a British colony from 1918 (the end of the Ottoman Empire after WWI) until 1932. See http://www.angelfire.com/nt/Gilgamesh/1918.html Sure, Iraq was governed by a series of despots culminating with Saddam Hussein, but nobody expected the Brits to do anything about it.

The situation in Lebanon is not good. There is a Christian minority living under a Moslem government backed by Syrian troops. But don't expect the French to do anything about it. After all, all they did was to create the country. See http://almashriq.hiof.no/lebanon/900/902/Kamal-Salibi/ That is why the Lebanese flag is a tricolor (French flag) with a ceder tree on it.

Take the Sudan. Britain had an army in the Sudan until 1956. Since that time, there has been constant unrest, until the Moslem government took over in 1983. Then things started getting really bad. In 1986, the United Nations referred to the situation there as "a disaster of major proportions". They just didn't do anything about it. Twenty years of inaction.

Remember Vietnam? Formerly French Indo-china?

These aren't problems that America created. No more so than we allowed Hitler to spread his evil throughout Europe. That would have been Neville Chamberlain. Remember "peace in our time?" We're not the ones selling Iran nuclear technology. That would be Russia.

We're just the ones that the world waits for to clean up the mess. So that they can criticize how we went about it.

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on Mar 10, 2005
Hmmm tasty.... The Lebanese flag bit was certainly news to me...
on Mar 10, 2005
good point.....kudo's
on Mar 11, 2005
You do have a point, well-made indeed.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Mar 11, 2005
You make some great points here.

All I can say otherwise is, helping others isn't always a situation where you get appreciated or thanked.

When we (we meaning the U.S. Military) went to Florida for Hurricane Andrew, while many thanked us and were glad we were there, we were also threatened by gangs, treated like servants, had bricks, stones and other debris thrown at us... Because we didn't get to "their" neighborhood quick enough.

While doing ambulance work, we have been spat on by people with AIDS; called racists because we didn't save a minority; sued by an 80 year old cardiac arrest patient, because somewhere during the 6 times his heart was restarted enroute to the hopital, his upper denture plate was lost; had vomit bags thrown at us; and shot at... for various reasons.

As a forest fire fighter, we were sued for not saving the all wood house in the thicket of trees (no clear cut around it), called "Nazi" "communist" and "Storm Trooper" for evacuating cabins ahead of the fireline; one situation where a buddy got charged with child molestation because he carried a young girl out of harms way....

I guess you get the picture by now...

These are not rare occurances. In which of these situations should we have refused to continue helping, merely because the locals mistreated us an didn't consider it, "our job"???

Like I said, you really do make some good points (I liked the title and subtitle especially), so you are right, doing things for others at a cost, for little or no thanks or appreciation is Americans acting like American..

on Mar 11, 2005
Sounds like we could use more americans out there...
on Mar 11, 2005
I guess ya'll don't need me then. I'll just haul my red ass back to Krypton thank you very much.
on Mar 11, 2005
'We're not the ones selling Iran nuclear technology.'
Oh yes you are!
on Mar 11, 2005
Furry Canary, some links to the contrary:

"Russia will continue its essential role in helping Iran" from the Turkish Weekly. See http://www.turkishweekly.net/comments.php?id=364

"Russian entities are interacting with Iranian nuclear research centers on a wide variety of activities beyond the Bushehr project. Many of these projects, ostensibly for civilian nuclear uses, have direct application to the production of weapons-grade fissile material." From Russian American Nuclear Security Advisory Council.

Can you offer any links to support your contention?
on Mar 11, 2005

'We're not the ones selling Iran nuclear technology.'
Oh yes you are!

Lies are cheap.  Allegations are cheaper still.  The truth cannot be bought.  You have no capital and no facts.

on Mar 11, 2005
When we (we meaning the U.S. Military) went to Florida for Hurricane Andrew, while many thanked us and were glad we were there, we were also threatened by gangs, treated like servants, had bricks, stones and other debris thrown at us... Because we didn't get to "their" neighborhood quick enough.
While Isabel was not as hard on us as Andrew was on Fla, it still was bad for a state not use to them. We were without power for 10 days, but when those Duquesne power trucks rolled into the neighborhood that last day, the workers were offered everything from cookies and milk, to Beer and Whiskey! We were sure glad they came, and wanted to show our appreciation in any way we could. I will never understand the reaction you saw Ted. And I will never sneer at a power line crew again, no matter how much they are charging for that juice that runs everything!
on Mar 11, 2005
when those Duquesne power trucks rolled into the neighborhood that last day, the workers were offered everything from cookies and milk, to Beer and Whiskey! We were sure glad they came, and wanted to show our appreciation in any way we could.


There were neighborhoods that treated us this way also. My second article kind of covered that mission.Link


We never understood the mistreatment in others either though. Except maybe the gangs, we were messing with their "turf"... of whatever gangs call their spit of claimed property nowadays. ;~D
on Mar 11, 2005
You know Larry, it's a case of "damn if you do and damn if you don't" where America is concerned. The world will always blame us for everything that's wrong with it. Sometimes I wish our government would just lay low, but when they don't step in, all hell break loose. And when they don't do something too many lives are lost.
on Mar 11, 2005
Oh, yes, America never had anything to do with colonialism. I'd like to see us try and help the South American countries we've treated like vassal states for over 100 years instead of taking over Middle Eastern oil nations.

We might as well blame Haroun al-Raschid if we want to talk about Iraqi despots. Or Sargon of Akkad. Or Nebuchadnezzar.

What's it say in Ecclesiates? "Nothing new under the sun?" Very true statement, that.
on Mar 11, 2005
Damn, Mr. K.---excellent article. Wish I could write like that. Well done.
on Mar 11, 2005
I think that the reason a big part of the world resents us helping them during a crisis is that they don't want to admit they can't do it themselves.

But, if you notice...They rarely refuse our assistance.
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